S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

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Vasilis_K
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Lid geworden op: 21 dec 2015, 00:35
Auto: S1 111S
Locatie: Brussels

Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

Bericht door Vasilis_K »

Frederik schreef:for me ... no service book is no go!

Exept the car goes for half the 'normal' price.

I see.
I can get it for 16.5K Euro.
Normal price for 111S with 100K Km and service history is 18-23K euro.

Price is tempting, considering that I have driven the car and the car has been checked by Lotus specialist who confirmed its good condition.

Dilemma...
HJ2
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Lid geworden op: 09 sep 2008, 12:50
Naam: Henk-Jan
Auto: Elan M100 S2 Turbo '95
Locatie: Delluf

Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

Bericht door HJ2 »

You can only realy say something about a car when you've spent at last 4 - 5 hours checking all the details in hardware and paperwork. Even then it is a guess. A checkup from a dealer or a specialist gives no more than an indication based on experience and what they see in a limited amount of time.
That said: Also a dealer maintained car can be a money pit. It's a second hand item.
So it's a bit of wisdom and a whole lot of luck!
However if there are now known issues that prevent a new Belgium MOT... That would be a' no go' for me, unless the seller gives you guarantee that any problems will be solved. Guarantee on paper that is...
I wish you wisdom! (and lots of fun)
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got.
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type25
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Lid geworden op: 23 jul 2013, 19:58
Naam: Rob
Auto: S2 111s type 25
Locatie: De Bilt Nederland

Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

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Got myself a car with full service history and lots of documentation. From a UK based Lotus/Porsche/Bentley dealer. Turned out lots of things had to be done.
A winters work and thousands of euro's spent on parts the car was as it should be. All i have to do now is convert it to LHD before springtime.

A dealer maintained car with fully stamped service book is nice to have but says nothing to me.
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Vasilis_K
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Lid geworden op: 21 dec 2015, 00:35
Auto: S1 111S
Locatie: Brussels

Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

Bericht door Vasilis_K »

I have checked quite a few 111S in Belgium, France, Nederlands and Germany.

I am surprised with the selling price for cars with no ( or limited) service history. Some of these cars have some good upgrades in induction kit, sports exhaust and catalyst, suspension, drakes, interior trim steering wheel + 4point harness ) and despite no service history the sellers ask 18-20k Euro.

This is an indication that many people may prefer the current vehicle condition with the upgrades over history...... :roll:
HJ2
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Auto: Elan M100 S2 Turbo '95
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Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

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I maintain my car myself. So no service history from the dealer.
Does this mean my car is bad? I don't think so. Better yet, I dare to state that my car is one of the best available. If I ever would sell it, it would be in the upper price range (no plans though, I'm still in love with the car :D )
I do have a huge pile of receipts for all the parts that i bought for maintenance, repairs and upgrades.
So bring somebody whom you know and trust and who has a lot of experience in maintaining and repairing your specific type of car (more than just an oilfilter :roll: ) He will know all the niggles and weak points of the cars and knows where to check.
If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got.
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keesv
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Lid geworden op: 31 mei 2010, 15:22
Naam: Kees
Auto: Elise S1 S2

Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

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full service book doesn't mean a lot to me, still can be a heavily corroded, trackday toy with worn out suspension.

I've got a nice 111s without service history, but i couldn't care less about that:

http://lotusforum.be/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6354
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Vasilis_K
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Re: S1 GAZ adjustable shocks - Vs - Technical control

Bericht door Vasilis_K »

I my opinion, all depends on the reasons that each individual wants to buy an Elise:
- Do you buy an Elise to enjoy is on nice road-trips and on track and want to keep it in your garage as a nice toy? --> Then you might not pay attention to the history and buy the car based on its current condition. Then you can maintain the car by yourself.

- OR, do you buy it as an investment, to enjoy it for some time and then sell it to make some profit? --> In this case you might want to have a full service history because it will make it easier to get more $$ when you sell it.
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